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Old 10-03-2011, 04:23 AM
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Default Hot Rod Build Off : Real Steel Rat

Hi Everybody I've been lurking in the wings for a while now, totally impressed by the creativity found everywhere on this forum, but until now have not contributed. I decided that had to change when I stumbled across this hot rod build off. With the calibre of the other entrants, I'm not out to win, more using the competition as very good motivation to complete the project in the rather limited spare time I have.

Please keep in mind that this is the first time I have ever posted anything to any forum ever so here goes..

First idea was to do something in 1/24th with one of the various bodies I have laying around. Plenty of choices for the looks and details but couldn't come up with the mechanics in that scale at the moment. Next idea, my 1/10th stuff. Gathered up some bits and pieces and they seemed to work.

The goal is to produce a rat rod styled pickup truck with something extra that I'll keep secret for now.

These first three pics are the trial concepts.
Rear axle - old tamiya f1 direct drive with stock foams
Fronts - modified tamiya hornet buggy rims
Body - cardboard concept
Engine - donated by large toy hot rod
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:33 AM
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You've got the right idea, but those rear tires are way too small.

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Old 10-03-2011, 07:20 AM
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Great start! LOve the design of the cab and bed. Definitely need larger rear slicks! Can't wait to see more.
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Thank you and yes, I thought the same thing about the rears as soon as I had the body mocked up. Couldn't change the wheels on that axle so I changed the rear end for an old Hornet item with a big rim/tyre combo. The plus about this move is it can also fit basically any combo that takes my fancy at the time.

-new rear end
-the metalwork begins.. much happier with the rear end now
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So far the body work has been rather simple. All up it only contains 6 parts at the moment. The back and roof is one piece, there will be additional parts to make the front visor, the 'doors' wrap around from the back to the front and form the firewall. The rear fenders are tacked to the floorpan/running boards.

The tricky part will be shaping the curved rear pillars and roof edges. The pickup tray in the concept was just something I knocked up out of scraps a while back. It works well, but I have something else in mind for it.

I'm trying to build the rat without buying anything unless absolutely needed, steel is all off cuts, scrap bits and pieces and use as much out of my parts pile as I can. Hopefully I have enough stuff laying around.

Last couple of pics are sitting in place with the engine and the front wheels. note fronts aren't set up correctly, just on a spacer i had laying around to keep them upright. Hope people like what I'm goin for even though it's only the beginning.
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That's the ticket! The new tires in the rear are perfect size for that thing. Nice metal work so far too!
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Looks awesome. But I am also picturing Herman Munster driving this thing to the track.
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Great start! Looking forward to update on the progress
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Appreciate all the positive feedback everybody

I'm working on the bodywork and started an idea for the front axle will update pics as soon as I have something worth showing

Might be more Uncle Fester's liking by the time I'm done
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I'm trying to get as much done as I can around getting my real car registered, hence things have been a bit slow but here's the new stuff..

Bodywork for upper rear corner
Brasswork for front axle and suspension

Like everything else on this build, I'm making it all up as I go along. Started with a partial idea but nothing is strict and just going with what looks/feels right. I looked at a bunch of reference pics on net for front suspension but didn't copy anything specific.

wheelbase is approx 370mm think the track is about 200mm-220mm
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I'm in love with your front beam
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Much better than the first mock up

that front beam looks great

gonna go with a single leaf spring for it? or shocks? I think the iron leafs would fit in better with the steel theme but maybe thats just me...

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THe new front end is perfect. I agree with spoon on the leaf set up as opposed to the shocks on this ride. Great work so far!
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thanks guys front beam came out rather well considering had no plan and for a first attempt at anything like that.

Yeah I think the leaf is the way to go, just need to find something laying around that I can use for it. I may have a hidden spring/shock inside the engine as a backup. That gold engine is actually hollow inside and will probably be where I stick the battery. Think the other electrics may hide under a bench seat in the interior, also considering old school hanging lanterns as headlights.
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Talking Progress at last!!!

Very pleased with today's progress. Hopefully this update is worth the wait for anyone that may be following my endeavours.

A while ago I had the chance to fold up some steel into C-channel with the intention of creating a chassis for the rat. (sorry I don't have progress pics of the early work)

The dimensions I used: 24mm wide strip of steel

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After a few hours of and some and a fair bit of I FINALLY figured out how to put it together into something that both looked like a hot rod and seems to function (also had to wait for spare time and fair weather to happen at the same time so I weld)

Rear suspension is workable at the moment, front will be leaf but haven't mounted yet. Here's where I'm at after today..



Chassis, body, 'engine' all just sitting together




I had a tough time mounting the pivot point for the rear axle, just wouldn't work 'as is' motor can fouled on the new chassis rail and meant no suspension travel at all. Solution - added 30mm extension to the rails. Downside is that the rear guards had to be re-shaped to accomodate the new length. Hope it still looks as good.

rear bar / chassis crossmember



The start of what's planned for the rear deck





The components when separated and compared to a meter rule for size... yes that does show it at 50cm long



Close up of rear end. You can see the rail extensions in this one.




I had hoped to get it fully rolling for a test drive today but didn't quite get there before it started getting dark out. Hopefully it won't be another month before I get it to the next stage. As I mentioned in the main post for this contest, I'm working on a large commissioned painting that is due as a Christmas present and it's using up most of my spare time. I can post up a thread on it if anyone is interested.

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