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Old 01-18-2009, 07:47 PM
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my vote stays with the cut down 2.2's are fine there are some good looking cut down 2.2's as well. yeah there are lots of 1.9's out but 90% of them are useless at a comp sorry(good 1.9's got maybe 4-5 tires to choose from).. I am not talking about "comp" tires either dirt works, geo,s dirt hawgs. there all good looking tires and they all work really well compared to the 1.9's out there.. sure there are people who cant do the work, theres also people who cant paint braze or hook up electronics.. but this is a creative hobby telling people they cant mod tires is like saying go buy a RTR that is all your allowed to run.. I am not for stifling creativity.
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Sometimes a cut-n-shut is the only way to achieve the "perfect scale look; any performance upgrade is a nice little bonus.

For instance, you wouldn't outlaw these? Cut,shut, narrowed Dirt Works. Same size as a Mud Slinger.
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:24 PM
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That's a good point.

As I said, I have a problem of seeing both sides of the equation. I only thought I should air the argument for discussion's sake.
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I have no problem with cut n shut tires so long as they look "scale", aka no panthers, badlands etc. I like the up to judges at tech thing.
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OKay lets try this:

1.9” Class
This class is modeled after typical street-legal off-road vehicles, non-trailered vehicles. These rules are set up to judge a scale truck as the "sum of its parts." The goal is to have trucks that resemble something you might actually see driving down a highway on the way to the trail. Understand the "spirit" of the rules and work within them.

> Chassis: The chassis or frame must be a ladder style and extend over the axles. Competition style RC rock crawling chassis are not allowed. This includes twin vertical plate designs (TVP), "stick" style, torsion and forced articulation. Tub style chassis are allowed.


> Wheels & Tires: Wheels are restricted to OEM 1.9” size. If the tires are cut down 2.2’s, they must fit onto a standard 1.9” rim and not exceed 4.25” in height and 1.75” in width. Flywheels brand wheels and tires and 1/18-scale Nylint brand wheels and tires will be allowed. 2.0's wheels are allowed as long as the tire attached is either a stock 1.9 tire or cut & shut tire that falls into the restrictions. When opting for a cut & shut tire it is important to check with the host club for legality.
***Cut & Shuts must resemble a real tire. I.E. cut down MOABS, BADLANDS, ETC will not be allowed.***

> Body: You must run a complete body, bumpers, fenders, doors and tailgates must be intact. Moderate fender trimming is allowed, but the basic shape of the fender must be retained. If no doors are run, the vehicle must have an interior (dash, floorpan, seats, etc). If no tailgate is used, the bed must be built out (drop bed). A shortened or lengthened body is allowed. A tubed bed must have a functional bed area capable of carrying a full-size spare laid flat, and tail lights(need not function), (rear fender and tailgate rules to not apply to tubed beds).

> Steering: 4-wheel steering is illegal.

> Drivetrain: A chassis mounted transmission and/or transfer case are allowed. Front or rear dig, cutting bakes, motor on axle (MOA) designs are illegal. Chassis with single or dual integrated motors are allowed, but the motors must always be powered (no electronic digs).

> Wheelbase and width: The dimensions of the vehicle are limited only by the body, but it must fit within the body’s fender wells.

> Comp-day modifications: The vehicle must be run as it was setup for tech inspection.

> Battery: The Battery must be placed on or within the chassis.
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That looks workable and reasonable
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The issue for the Cut down 2.2's was with the 2.0 wheels only. But these work for me.
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badlands are a real tire.. may not be DOT approved but there real I dont think they would fit the spirit of the class however..

my feeling on the 2.0 is if you run them they need restricted to only OEM tires.. there is a advantage to a taller tire and a 2" rim makes that possible..

also the rules used to read, tires are restricted to OEM 1.9” size. tire is important to have in that line to.

> Wheels & Tires: Wheels/tires are restricted to OEM 1.9” size. If the tires are cut down 2.2’s, they must fit onto a standard 1.9” rim and not exceed 4.25” in height and 1.75” in width. Flywheels brand wheels and tires and 1/18-scale Nylint brand wheels and tires will be allowed. 2.0's wheels are allowed as long as the tire attached is OEM stock 1.9 tire When opting for a cut & shut tire it is important to check with the host club for legality.
***Cut & Shuts must resemble a real tire. I.E. cut down MOABS, BADLANDS, ETC will not be allowed.***
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Sloppy, that sounds good I agree.

Gets a AYE for me
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Final Version!

1.9” Class
This class is modeled after typical street-legal off-road vehicles, non-trailered vehicles. These rules are set up to judge a scale truck as the "sum of its parts." The goal is to have trucks that resemble something you might actually see driving down a highway on the way to the trail. Understand the "spirit" of the rules and work within them.

> Chassis: The chassis or frame must be a ladder style and extend over the axles. Competition style RC rock crawling chassis are not allowed. This includes twin vertical plate designs (TVP), "stick" style, torsion and forced articulation. Tub style chassis are allowed.


> Wheels & Tires: Wheels are restricted to OEM 1.9” size. If the tires are cut down 2.2’s, they must fit onto a standard 1.9” rim and not exceed 4.25” in height and 1.75” in width. Flywheels brand wheels and tires and 1/18-scale Nylint brand wheels and tires will be allowed. 2.0's wheels are allowed as long as the tire attached is either a stock 1.9 tire or cut & shut tire that falls into the restrictions.

> Body: You must run a complete body, bumpers, fenders, doors and tailgates must be intact. Moderate fender trimming is allowed, but the basic shape of the fender must be retained. If no doors are run, the vehicle must have an interior (dash, floorpan, seats, etc). If no tailgate is used, the bed must be built out (drop bed). A shortened or lengthened body is allowed. A tubed bed must have a functional bed area capable of carrying a full-size spare laid flat, and tail lights(need not function), (rear fender and tailgate rules to not apply to tubed beds).

> Steering: 4-wheel steering is illegal.

> Drivetrain: A chassis mounted transmission and/or transfer case are allowed. Front or rear dig, cutting bakes, motor on axle (MOA) designs are illegal. Chassis with single or dual integrated motors are allowed, but the motors must always be powered (no electronic digs).

> Wheelbase and width: The dimensions of the vehicle are limited only by the body, but it must fit within the body’s fender wells.

> Comp-day modifications: The vehicle must be run as it was setup for tech inspection.

> Battery: The Battery must be placed on or within the chassis.
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I give is a final aye
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Indeed.
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