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It's not about punishment, it's about reward. I like the idea of rewarding the guy that has 100 hrs in a build more than the guy that has 50 hrs in the build.

Stu, I don't know about the less reluctance to thrash after the first scratch. I think it would come down to the amount of thrashing. Based on my recent experience running the HEMTT.

I like the 50% rule when it comes to a mix of lexan and hard.

The question is, how much do you reward the scratch built bodied trucks?
Building a scratchy is its own reward

I'd think five points for major bodywork or a steel cage would be fair, though. Either way you've got extra weight up top.
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Look at it the other way, should we penalize someone that cannot custom build a body???

My concern is you are punishing people that don't have or cannot do that. IMO
its not a penalty for the people who cant do or cant buy... I dont know if you have ever had a custom body in your hands or not but 80% of them are 3 times as heavy as a over the counter body, not to mention the hours that go into the work.. so it is a deserved bonus for those who can do it or can buy it..

this is a nice bonus that only a few people that actually do allot of custom work can get.. hopefully encourage less cookie cutter scalers..
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Scale appearance points will be deducted from the final score of each event. Appearance points are listed below.

-5 Points (up to a maximum of 20 points)
·Hard body (rigid construction, usually abs or polystyrene: essentially any body that is not lexan)
·Detailed Bed (drop beds, flat beds, tube beds: should be realistic representations)
·Interior detail (must have at least driver & passenger seat, dashboard, & steering wheel)
·Offroad trailer (must be towed during entire event)

-3 Points (up to a maximum of 15 points)
·Roof rack with large scale item (canoe or similar, item must be secured to rack with tie downs; no Velcro will be permitted.)
·Bed item with large scale item (quad, dirt bikes or similar, item must be secured with tie downs; no Velcro will be permitted.)
·Realistic bumpers (point per bumper)
·Functional winch (per winch, front or rear)
·Functional spare tire (should be same size as being run on vehicle; i.e. no 1.9 spare on a 2.2 vehicle)
·Scale engine (i.e. Parma hemi)


-1 Point (up to a maximum of 10 points)
·Functional Lights (per set: Headlights / tail lights / roof / rollbar / crawling)
·Driver / Passenger figure (should be scale in size, in other words a 4 inch G.I. Joe figure in a 1/6 scale truck wouldn’t work. 1 point per person)
·Spare tire (non functional)
·Non Functional Winch (per winch, front or rear)
·Scale accessories (jerry cans, cooler, snatch straps, etc {multiples of a particular item will only score once: for example if you have 2 jerry cans you will only score for 1 jerry can})


Custom Body Bonus: This bonus is awarded for custom build work done to a body, this ranges from stretching, widening, combining, and scratch building. This is added on top of Scale points.

-5 points for any custom body work (i.e. building a crew cab, grafting lexan and hard bodies*, etc)
-10 points for scratch builds (i.e. building a body from the ground up; no OEM basis)

*50% rule applies to lexan/hard combos; in the case of a lexan/hard combo the body will be judged on the basis of whether it is more than 50% lexan or more than 50% hard.
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I like that!!!
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I like it... but could we add the word MAJOR to this line???

-5 points for any major custom body work (i.e. building a crew cab, grafting lexan and hard bodies*, etc)

I dont want to give -5 to some one who just does any work (i.e. trimming fenders, filling holes, adding a scoop) some guys take the wording very literal and by saying any custom body work, I will have to pull my hair out trying to explain the intent of that line...
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Scale appearance points will be deducted from the final score of each event. Appearance points are listed below.

-5 Points (up to a maximum of 20 points)
·Hard body (rigid construction, usually abs or polystyrene: essentially any body that is not lexan)
·Detailed Bed (drop beds, flat beds, tube beds: should be realistic representations)
·Interior detail (must have at least driver & passenger seat, dashboard, & steering wheel)
·Offroad trailer (must be towed during entire event)

-3 Points (up to a maximum of 15 points)
·Roof rack with large scale item (canoe or similar, item must be secured to rack with tie downs; no Velcro will be permitted.)
·Bed item with large scale item (quad, dirt bikes or similar, item must be secured with tie downs; no Velcro will be permitted.)
·Realistic bumpers (point per bumper)
·Functional winch (per winch, front or rear)
·Functional spare tire (should be same size as being run on vehicle; i.e. no 1.9 spare on a 2.2 vehicle)
·Scale engine (i.e. Parma hemi)


-1 Point (up to a maximum of 10 points)
·Functional Lights (per set: Headlights / tail lights / roof / rollbar / crawling)
·Driver / Passenger figure (should be scale in size, in other words a 4 inch G.I. Joe figure in a 1/6 scale truck wouldn’t work. 1 point per person)
·Spare tire (non functional)
·Non Functional Winch (per winch, front or rear)
·Scale accessories (jerry cans, cooler, snatch straps, etc {multiples of a particular item will only score once: for example if you have 2 jerry cans you will only score for 1 jerry can})


Custom Body Bonus: This bonus is awarded for custom build work done to a body, this ranges from stretching, widening, combining, and scratch building. This is added on top of Scale points.

-5 points for any major custom body work (i.e. building a crew cab, grafting lexan and hard bodies*, etc)
-5 points for major tubular work. (i.e. full exocage, full tube chassis that supports and/or conforms to the body)
-10 points for scratch builds (i.e. building a body from the ground up; no OEM basis)

*50% rule applies to lexan/hard combos; in the case of a lexan/hard combo the body will be judged on the basis of whether it is more than 50% lexan or more than 50% hard.
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just to clarify if you get working winch or functional spare, you would not be able to get the non functional point as well?? is that correct..
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Tube work points was a concern, but I see you fixed that
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just to clarify if you get working winch or functional spare, you would not be able to get the non functional point as well?? is that correct..
Correct, it's one or the other, not a combination.
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So a servo winch behind a Wild Willy winch is 3 points for functional, until it breaks
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So a servo winch behind a Wild Willy winch is 3 points for functional, until it breaks
correct then you can have non functional winch for -1 point and be stuck on a rock
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So I assume everyone is happy?
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looks good to me..
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