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Old 09-07-2016, 07:51 PM
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Hey all I know basic tools goes a long way in building, but I was shopping for my own birthday gift (on behalf of my girlfriend) and was wondering if there was some tools that you feel made a difference in how you work.

For instance I have one of those spring loaded automatic punch that I like because I just press on the handle and it punches a small point on the metal, making it much easier to drill a hole at the right place.

Well you get the idea let me know if you can help me create a new need

Also I am trying to find where I can get good dremel, I read that other thread where it was suggested that I use a higher end dremel kit, but without all the accessories, just the flexible tube. And I also saw they make cordless dremels... but I'm kind of afraid it'll be out of power when I need it. So in short I still have to shop quite a bit on dremels just to find out what I need/want. But it'd be nice to hear what you think.


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Old 09-09-2016, 10:45 AM
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Hey Fred, I use the Proxxon 38472 rotary tool...variable speed from 5000-20,000 rpms with constant torque..I have never used the Dremel Rotary tool, but I have read where it vibrates a lot and the sometimes the rpms slow down because the torque isn't quite there...can't say for sure though..
It's not too heavy and pretty comfortable to hold and use... It's been my go to tool for cutting curves and radius in styrene...lol! I also got the mini drill press stand for it ....!
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Old 09-09-2016, 10:54 AM
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Also, if you plan to get into building with styrene, get a balsa wood stripper...I use this to make my own strips...I have cut strips from 1.0mm to 10mm wide from sheets ranging from .5mm to 2.0mm thick... So basically I just buy bulk styrene sheets (12"x12") of varying thicknesses, no need to spend additional money on strips...!

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/291378972601
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Old 09-12-2016, 06:44 PM
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Hey Fred, I use the Proxxon 38472 rotary tool...variable speed from 5000-20,000 rpms with constant torque..I have never used the Dremel Rotary tool, but I have read where it vibrates a lot and the sometimes the rpms slow down because the torque isn't quite there...can't say for sure though..
It's not too heavy and pretty comfortable to hold and use... It's been my go to tool for cutting curves and radius in styrene...lol! I also got the mini drill press stand for it ....!
Hey Preston, thanks for the hints! I have not heard of the Proxxon, I will look it up. The Dremel 4000 has the feedback to monitor and control the speed when under torque, looks decent. The rotary tool I currently have is a no name type that is sold under a bunch of crappy names, variable speed but vibrates like crazy, and the flexible that came with it is very sloppy. So either choice will be a huge improvement I think

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Also, if you plan to get into building with styrene, get a balsa wood stripper...I use this to make my own strips...I have cut strips from 1.0mm to 10mm wide from sheets ranging from .5mm to 2.0mm thick... So basically I just buy bulk styrene sheets (12"x12") of varying thicknesses, no need to spend additional money on strips...!

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/291378972601
I am not quite at styrene level yet lol! For the moment I look and learn by looking at your and other styrene masters work, so when I start thinking about using styrene I will at least have some background info on it. For now the only styrene pieces I touched are the bumpers and wing you sent me for the Escort! But I am already convinced that it will be the way to go to open the possibilities with bodies. Either that or wood depending on what type of ride it would go onto.
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Old 09-12-2016, 08:36 PM
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The Proxxon stuff is really a step above. Basically the step from hobby grade to tradesman grade. I have the Dremel 4000 and it's good, but it's not in the same league. I believe Proxxon offers a mini mill attachment for their rotary tool as well. If you wanted to get into more fabrication, that could come in handy.
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I'm not sure of your experience, current tool set or what you plan to do, so these might be considered overly basic; a good quality set of hex drivers with long tips/good handles and a good soldering set-up are key to me.
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Do NOT cheap out on the 1.5mm hex wrenches! That's my biggest advice. So much sadness can be easily avoided by getting a nice one.
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A good torch, dilver solder-brazing rods, and portable bandsaw, if you plan on making your own chassis.
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Old 09-29-2016, 03:49 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions all!! I did not receive the notifications for your posts, sorry about the delay!

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The Proxxon stuff is really a step above. Basically the step from hobby grade to tradesman grade. I have the Dremel 4000 and it's good, but it's not in the same league. I believe Proxxon offers a mini mill attachment for their rotary tool as well. If you wanted to get into more fabrication, that could come in handy.
My girlfriend got me the Dremel 4000 for my birthday, so I will settle with it, but it is really interesting to hear the observations you guys have about both models. For milling at some point I should have something workable on my lathe, I need to make some kind of adapter bracked for the milling attachment I already got, but I still have not done it. It would be easier to make the milling attachment bracket if I had a milling machine lol, kind of the egg and the chicken.

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I'm not sure of your experience, current tool set or what you plan to do, so these might be considered overly basic; a good quality set of hex drivers with long tips/good handles and a good soldering set-up are key to me.
Actually I have lots of tools but not a lot of the small stuff like that. I use a cheap set of multi bit miniature hex heads but it sucks. I always end up not having the right hex driver or key, or they slip etc. Really good suggestion.

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Do NOT cheap out on the 1.5mm hex wrenches! That's my biggest advice. So much sadness can be easily avoided by getting a nice one.
I think that will be in the tool set soon!

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A good torch, dilver solder-brazing rods, and portable bandsaw, if you plan on making your own chassis.
I don't quite have a good torch, I have the big bulky propane one, which I used for the Escort MK2 build until now, and I got a small micro butane torch which I only used a little bit. Not sure how good it will solder, I only soldered my cable steering with it.

I looked into safety silv wire, just have not pulled the trigger given the price etc... I will try to find some locally and see how the price is. There is a Linde store locally selling welding stuff, I am not sure if they sell to public or only business, I will stop by and see.
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Old 10-03-2016, 06:33 PM
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Do NOT cheap out on the 1.5mm hex wrenches! That's my biggest advice. So much sadness can be easily avoided by getting a nice one.
So what would be some decent and not overpriced set of hex wrenches? (let me know which brand and and if you know a place to buy them), either a set or individually. I have a pretty poor inventory of hex wrenches, I even find myself driving hex screws with torx bits because I don't have the right hex wrench... lol

I bought a whole lot of M2, M3 and even some M2.5 hex screws in various lengths, but I don't have any decent wrenches... I have seen a kit on rc4wd website with replaceable tips, but the fact they are discontinued makes me wonder if the tips will be available for long?

Also I have a couple of those hex drivers that has a rounded head so you can tighten hex screws at an angle. Are those typically bad? It feels as if it will slip or strip more easily given the contact patch is smaller... In doubt I would not be tempted to buy more of those.

Edit: I found this is actually called ball hex, and as I did notice it is intended to be faster, but not as much torque, so you pretty much have to do the final tightening with a square hex instead of ball. I guess both are good to own but I'll start with good square ones I think.


Edit 2: What do you think of the brand Wiha? This set looks pretty nice, and a very quick search shows they seems to be known as good tools on the web (oops I just noticed they are ball hex) :

https://www.amazon.ca/Wiha-26491-5-P...hex+driver+set

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Check your LHS. Mine had some from a company called Dynamite, I don't remember how much it was but it has an extremely hard removable driver in a nice aluminum grip. I've had it for about two years and it's not worn down at all. By comparison, my Tamiya kit L-shaped 1.5mm started to twist a bit after a while and was starting to look a little rounded.

On the subject of L-shaped wrenches, it's worth having both a driver with a grip for torque and an L wrench for when you need to get in to tight spaces.
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Old 10-03-2016, 07:01 PM
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Check your LHS. Mine had some from a company called Dynamite, I don't remember how much it was but it has an extremely hard removable driver in a nice aluminum grip. I've had it for about two years and it's not worn down at all. By comparison, my Tamiya kit L-shaped 1.5mm started to twist a bit after a while and was starting to look a little rounded.

On the subject of L-shaped wrenches, it's worth having both a driver with a grip for torque and an L wrench for when you need to get in to tight spaces.

Thanks DougJ, is yours like this (probably not since they dont look removable)

http://www.dynamiterc.com/Products/D...ProdID=DYN2819


Or more like this:

http://www.dynamiterc.com/Products/D...ProdID=DYN2904

http://www.dynamiterc.com/Products/D...ProdID=DYN2900
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I have an Integy tool set that works good. I will probably replace the 1.5mm with a MIP driver sooner or later though. MIP isn't cheap, but they are one of the best.
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I have the machined one, Frederik. It's really nice, I've stripped some hard setscrews with it before.
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Old 10-04-2016, 05:59 AM
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Thanks Doug, I do like how it is middle priced. I lean towards them, and maybe a set of wiha ball end for quick fastening when doing mockups and not much torque is needed. For a build I typically fasten and undo everything a gazzillion times before final assembly anyways
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